Nils Mathisrud

Her er resultatlista fra septembermøtet. Jeg har også mottat resultatlista fra august. Den vet jeg ikke hvordan jeg skal tolke. Det er 9 påmeldte modeller, men bare 8 som har fått poeng. Så hvilken modell som har hvilken poengsum er jeg ikke sikker på.

Jeg har funnet følgende notat: "Canopy fra ... Cornell ... har en blåfarge som er litt lysere enn FS 25102, dvs. svært nær Funkisblå."

Bengalac fargekart finnes bl.a. på Teknisk Museum - og sikkert mange andre steder. Jeg gjorde en fargestudie en gang, ved å sammenligne fargekartene med FS og Pantone fargechips. Men for å finne dette så må jeg lete litt....

Luftforsvaret brukte i stor grad maling fra Bengalac. De hadde ikke mange blåfarger i fargekartet. Funkisblå er en ikke usannsynlig kandidat.

Kode til porten? Hvis alle trenger en kode for å slippe inn, så er det vel greiest at vi får den på forhånd...?

Blir det møte på Kjeller tirsdag 14. september? Nils

Det ville vært fint å vite om møtet på forhånd, ja..... Får se hva jeg får til fremover. I korona-tiden har jeg fått et helt annet fast program på tirsdager..... Nils

All den kunnskapen som du har opparbeidet, Einar, må jo samles et sted. Kanskje et kompendium, eller hva med en oppdatert utgave av Olves hefte? Jeg kom plutselig på at jeg har dette heftet i bokhylla. Skal prøve å få tatt en titt på det i helga. https://www.1001hobbies.co.uk/squadron-signal/31433-squadron-signal-sqs1606-book-h-13-sioux-helicopters.html

Det står jo en ikke-restaurert maskin på Flysamlinga. Så iallefall fargene burde det kunne gå an å finne ut av.

Litt feil benevninger i regnestykket ditt, Einar? En rotor på 14-15 mm (i 1/72 skala) vil ikke gi rare løftekraften. Den vil vel fint få plass inne i cockpit-glassklokka.... Og forskjellen mellom 14,7 og 15,7 mm blir med min skolematte 1 mm, ikke 10 mm.

Not so strange, if that is the case. As they flew from Bardufoss to Gardermoen, they would of course have been in flyable condition. However, there is no indication that The Green Man actually flew in RNAF markings. Several sources say that it was used for ground service only.

I wrote an article in Limtuben back in 1986, stating it was an A-2. It should not be taken as hard evidence.

Four Fw 189 aircraft of 1/Nahaufklärungsgruppe 32 were flown from Bardufoss to Gardermoen in September 1945. Two being of type A-2 while two being A-3. W. Nr. 2147 / GI+EU (an A-3) was one among these. One of the four was taken over by the RNAF and had the new Norwegian roundels (that were introduced from 1 December 1945) applied. Whether 2147 was the one that became "The Green Man" is not verified. The aircraft destroyed in the spring of 1946.

According to Einar, the main photo is still in Luftwaffe splinter camo, so it must be before any repainting. The inset photo shows the panel after the aircraft is scrapped. It is reasonable to believe that it was not repainted after that.....

A comparison of the engine panel before and after repainting. The inset photo is taken after the aircraft has been scrapped. It is interesting to see how carefully both text and beer mug has been recreated after repainting the aircraft. It seems to me that it is almost identical....

A problem with this theory is that the standard camouflage pattern does not have this demarcation line as standard....

Looking at the wing leading edge, the wing seems lighter in the underside then the upper side. Furthermore, the undersides of the engines does not seem to be black to me. Was the aircraft actually flown operative in Norwegian service? All references that I have come across says that it was only used for ground service. This makes any camouflage superflous - especially using time and resources on it. White propeller blades would be logical though, as it makes the hazardous rotating propellers easyer too see when parked, or possibly taxying on the ground.

Da skal jeg begynne å lete opp dekaler. Jeg mener jeg har lagt tilside noen - jeg husker bare ikke hvor.....

Seems to me to an awful lot ow work. What would the purpose be?

Om du skulle gjøre dette, så skal jeg nok finne et ekstra sett med Vingtor-dekaler for Safir. Jeg har lurt noe unna for "en god sak". Nils

Små inngrep som hever modellen

The term "used" might be a bit misleading, as there is no indication that it was actually flown in Norwegian colours, except from a ferry flight from Bardufoss to Gardermoen - still in original colours. The lower sides were definitely not black, more likely the same colour as the upper sides. It is hard to guess a colour from a b/w photo, unless you have something to compare to (some people claim to have this devine skill though - bless them). In all the photos that I have of this aircraft, the surface colour greytone is more or less identical to the red in the insignia - as shown by the cut-and-drag method in the photo. I have just moved the triangle up, and it is not possible to distinguish it from the background. So possibly The Green Man actually was painted red ? Nils

329 som står på Flysamlinga - Gardermoen. Også denne har kråkeantenna. Om denne har hatt et sivilt liv før den ble pensjonist, vet jeg ikke.

Standard og praksis er to forskjellige ting. Jeg mener roundellene på Safir var hhv. 1000 og 600 mm i tidlig skjema. Safir er ikke eneste flytype som bryter med 900/600-regelen.

Jeg stusset også over det. Mener også at det skal være et rundt "vindu" på ryggen, rett bak cockpit. Det kan lett illuderes med en sort (eller nesten sort) dekalbit.